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星期二, 5月 01, 2012

世界公民: 赞同亭芳兄的高论。亭芳兄站在历史的制高点上,看问题就全面深刻。因全。【禁聞】尋美國保護 前有方勵之 後有陳光誠 。

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After Fang Lizhi, Chen Guangcheng
Seeks Protection from the U.S.
Now many Chinese are thinking: Why do the Chinese always
choose to seek protection from the U.S. diplomatic unit?
Chen Guangcheng is rumored to have entered
the U.S. Embassy in Beijing.
Prior to this, Chen had succeeded in escaping from his hometown
while being controlled by the Political and Legal Affairs Committee (PLAC) of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
Pro-democracy activists in China and overseas analyzed that
Chen's path was very similar to Fang Lizhi's in 1989.
Chen's revealing of PLAC's persecution against the Chinese
may help Hu and Wen to remove Zhou Yongkang.
And that will advance China's political situation, activists say.
They called for the U.S. government to protect Chen Guangcheng,
to show its image of an international police upholding justice.
In his video talk to the CCP premier Wen Jiabao,
Chen Guangcheng exposed plenty of persecution by PLAC
of him and his family members.
This makes people associate Chen's flight with
Fang Lizhi's fleeing to the U.S. Embassy in 1989.
Fang was then a leader of China's pro-democracy movement.
Liu Yinquan (Chair of China Social Democratic Party):
"At that time, Mr. Fang Lizhi fled to the U.S. consulate in order to escape the CCP』s persecution.
So did Mr. Chen Guangcheng.
And the U.S. Embassy gave both of them protection.
Mr. Fang finally came to the U.S., and I believe Mr. Chen will.
I also believe that the U.S. government will give him
full protection, so the result will be the same for him, I think."
Liu, former history professor at Shangdong University,
thinks that Cheng Guangchneg's uncovering of PLAC's crime
will push Hu and Wen to take down Zhou Yongkang.
Liu Yinquan: "Guangcheng's episode is a landmark.
It probably gives a harder hit to China's political situation
than the Wang Lijun Incident did.
Wang Lijun revealed the corrupt group and mafia-gang led
by Bo Xilai and Zhou Yongkang.
The top figure behind all those authorities and individuals who
persecuted Chen Guangcheng is just Zhou Yongkang.
So if Hu and Wen could seize this opportunity to move against
Zhou, he would be hardly able to resist it."
Since the CCP took power, it has restlessly publicized that
"U.S. imperialism has never abandoned its intention to
destroy us," and "we are combating bourgeois liberalization".
Why did Chinese of different ranks always choose
to seek protection from the U.S. embassy or consulate when they were in danger ?
Zhu Xinxin (Freelance in China): " No matter how
the regime has defamed and
demonized the U.S. in its propaganda over decades,
all the Chinese people have come to know the truth.
That is, comparatively speaking, in this world, the U.S. is
upholding justice, and they have understood that the U.S. is a humane establishment.
So Chen Guangcheng's entering into the U.S. Embassy
once again proves that
the CCP's anti-American propaganda has failed in deceiving
and fooling the Chinese people.
What attracts the Chinese is not the life of material wealth
in the U.S. but its free, democratic and advanced social system."
Liu Yinquan adds that Chen Guangcheng's escape
also indicates that China's judicial system is too seamy.
Chen knew that there is no way out in petitioning the CCP's
top leadership, which might even put his life at risk.
Liu thinks the CCP's regime, in particular, the PLAC headed
by Zhou Yongkang, is an exact likeness of a mafia society.
The Chinese people and officials have all been thoroughly
disappointed with it, Liu comments.
Liu Yinquan: "Chen Guangcheng's event creates
a favorable opportunity for the U.S.
The U.S. government can vigorously grant asylum
to Chen with good reason.
This will build for the U.S. an image of upholding
justice in the world.
And it will be helpful to offset the shadow and shame caused
by the U.S. government's inaction in the Wang Lijun Incident."
Liu Yinquan figures that Zhou Yongkang will hinder Chen's
leaving China and will shift the blame onto Hu and Wen.
While at the same time Liu doesn't think that Hu and Wen
will be blocked by Zhou.
Liu says that he is optimistic to see Chen Guangcheng's
arrival in the U.S.

 

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Subject: FW: 谢谢杨巍的转发和点评 仇恨、血腥、和暴力是民主社会发展中的最大障碍。
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 01:27:29 +0900

在中国"唱红"无疑是一种政治复辟。将充满仇恨、血腥、和暴力的意识形态强加社会,用人治的方式控制社会;用"一朝江山万代红"的传统思维模式,谋取一党之私,背离了人类发展的趋势。如果说,薄熙来立足于现代文明的人权、民主、自由、法制、宪政为基础,以社会公平、正义为价值取向,为民请命,敢舍一身剐。他的下台也可能会赢得世人对胡耀邦、赵紫阳同样般的敬重。遗憾的是:他最终没能驱驾历史潮流,还是被"人民民主专政"专政下去了。

这是完整的一段,不应将它切割开。"仇恨"表现在一个阶级与另一个阶级的对抗,而这种对抗不是建立在法制的范围;"血腥"表现在杀富济贫的潜意识;专政的本身就是以暴力为依托。"唱红"是文革的产物,经历过那个时代的人,有谁不认为那是一个"充满仇恨、血腥、和暴力"的年代?除非他对那个年代情有独钟!

必须要说明的是:意识形态往往是一种行为的原始动力,它可能引导社会朝新型极权主义方向发展。仇恨、血腥、和暴力是民主社会发展中的最大障碍。

 

王亭芳


 

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Subject: 谢谢杨巍的转发和点评
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:28:42 -0400

杨巍转发王亭芳文中特别精彩的有以下几段,兹再摘录如下:

"依照州欧19世纪的概念,真正代表第三等级的资产阶级、城市平民、工人和广大农民的左派政治势力,在中国一天都没有存在过,不论议会的右边席位还是左边议席何时为他们预留?自翔"中国左派"的"中国新左派",把薄熙来恭为代言,显然张冠李戴。"

 

"薄熙来不属于传统意义上的"左派",重庆模式也不符合民主社会主义的基本理念。"

 

"他与苏联的戈尔巴乔夫、叶利钦不同,前者以否定苏共教义来凝聚政治实力,而薄熙来却重新拾起早已被人们否定了的"真理",来对抗中共"大一统"的政治常纲。"

 

"今天,自翔"中国左派"者为薄熙来喊冤叫屈,似乎薄熙来的兴衰与左派政治势力息息相关。纵览薄熙来所有的从政言论,丝毫找不出他真正代表左派利益的佐证,充其量不过是信仰马列,坚持毛泽东思想,坚持无产阶级专政的陈旧政治口号,貌似社会主义公平路线,其实是一个阶级压迫另一个阶级的偏执、狭隘的乌托邦意识。"

 

 

但我觉得王亭芳以下一句话是否言重了:

"在中国"唱红"无疑是一种政治复辟。将充满仇恨、血腥、和暴力的意识形态强加社会,"

我早就反感薄的"唱红",但并不看得那么严重。薄"唱红"是带有政治复辟的意味,复辟毛式政治格局,营造自己是共产党的正统,毛的传人的形象,为自己营造政治根据,也利用了底层民众在基层共官压迫下无奈怀毛的情结。但说"唱红""充满仇恨,血性和暴力",就太言重了。

 

 

杨巍点评得极好:

 

"司马南,孔庆东及其海外盟友或同党自翔"中国左派"或"新左派",其实都是假左派。他们的真正名称应该是"保皇派",因为他们保的是现代皇权--中共的一党专制,反的是真正的左派所提倡的民主自由。"

 

杨巍言简意赅,一步到位,好极!
国凯
4.30
 

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:02:11 -0400
Subject: Re: 荷衰欲黄荇犹绿,鱼乐自跃鸥不惊
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巨挺亭芳兄!

司马南,孔庆东及其海外盟友或同党自翔"中国左派"或"新左派",其实都是假左派。他们的真正名称应该是"保皇派",因为他们保的是现代皇权--中共的一党专制,反的是真正的左派所提倡的民主自由。尤其是他们伙同当局打压陈光诚的行为,完全和左派的价值背道而驰。

WY

在 2012年4月29日 上午8:53,王亭芳 <wangtingfang8@msn.com>写道:

                  

荷衰欲黄荇犹绿,鱼乐自跃鸥不惊

       

不久前发生在中国政坛上的一场强烈地震,引发了国内、国外的普遍关注。关注的焦点与其说是薄熙来的生死,不如说是对中国政治前景的担忧。莫非薄熙来真的与中国的命运息息相关?

"重庆模式"无疑是中国改革开放以来的一朵奇葩,红旗招展,凯歌嘹亮,杀富济贫,独树一帜。在歌舞升平,灯红酒绿的特色的社会主义里,蕴藏着特殊政治潜能。开启这一模式的薄熙来不仅是中共元老薄一波之子,也是中国特殊政治环境下培育出来的精英。从文革"联动"到大连为官;从商业部长的显赫到重庆的"打黑唱红";从人大会议记者会上的自信到隔日当啷入狱的悲惨。他如同中国诸多政治人物一样,闪亮登场,权倾一方,宏图未展,身陷囚笼。他没能利用与常人不同的出生背景,顺畅地走完步步登高的政治仕途。他错误的政治选项和张扬的人格特质是导致失败的根本原因。在追求四平八稳的机会主义官僚群体中,他确实属于异类,甚至可称的上近年来中国政坛上少有的天才。天才不是真理的堆砌,相反,天才的优美之处常常在于背叛真理。他有登高一呼的气魄,但缺乏跨上最高圣坛的城府。他与苏联的戈尔巴乔夫、叶利钦不同,前者以否定苏共教义来凝聚政治实力,而薄熙来却重新拾起早已被人们否定了的"真理",来对抗中共"大一统"的政治常纲。

有人说薄熙来是中国政治舞台上的"左派",期待他对中共现行体制摧古拉朽。应该承认:在日趋扩大的官僚垄断、权钱交易、社会分配不公的现状中,"均贫富"、"盼明君圣主"的思潮确实占有相当大的市场。薄熙来在重庆的"打黑唱红"也赢得了一部分社会群体的支持。如果仅仅以此便称其为" 左派 "实在有些牵强。

众所周知政治术语中左和右的概念起源于法国大革命期。 1789年法国资产阶级革命爆1791年制宪议会上,第一等级教士和第二等级贵族的议员与处于第三等级的资产阶级、城市平民、工人和广大农民的议员展开了激烈的斗争。同年9月的制宪议会会议上,第一、二等级的议员大都坐在议会右边的席位上,而第三等级的议员占据了左的席位。这个颇具戏剧性的历史场面本是偶然形成的,但被引用到实际政治划分便出现了"左派""右派"一对政治概念。通常,右是指思想落后于实际不能随变化了的情况前进,企图开历史倒车的思想和行为。与右相对的左,是指革命的、进步的,试图突破旧体制框架的思想和行为。

到了19,左派开始渐渐倾向于社会主义,而右派则渐渐倾向于自由主义。文艺复兴运动和思想启蒙运动催生了社会民主主义思想, "人权"、人民主权、 自由理论、平等理论、阶级合作理论、权力制衡理论、法的理论等等,都是那个时代的结晶。社会民主主义的核心价值在于:更注重社会平等,消除由于不公正的分配而带来的经济剥削,从社会底层阶级的观点出发,力图建立一套民主、自由、公平、正义的社会制度。

显然,薄熙来不属于传统意义上的"左派",重庆模式也不符合民主社会主义的基本理念

在中国"唱红"无疑是一种政治复辟。将充满仇恨、血腥、和暴力的意识形态强加社会,用人治的方式控制社会;用"一朝江山万代红"的传统思维模式,谋取一党之私,背离了人类发展的趋势。如果说,薄熙来立足于现代文明的人权、民主、自由、法制、宪政为基础,以社会公平、正义为价值取向,为民请命,敢舍一身剐。他的下台必然会赢得世人对胡耀邦、赵紫阳同样般的敬重。遗憾的是:他最终没能驱驾历史潮流,还是被"人民民主专政"专政下去了。

今天,自翔"中国左派"者为薄熙来喊冤叫屈,似乎薄熙来的兴衰与左派政治势力息息相关。纵览薄熙来所有的从政言论,丝毫找不出他真正代表左派利益的佐证,充其量不过是信仰马列,坚持毛泽东思想,坚持无产阶级专政的陈旧政治口号,貌似社会主义公平路线,其实是一个阶级压迫另一个阶级的偏执、狭隘的乌托邦意识。

依照欧州19世纪的概念,真正代表第三等级的资产阶级、城市平民、工人和广大农民的左派政治势力,在中国一天都没有存在过,不论议会的右边席位还是左边议席何时为他们预留?自翔"中国左派"的"中国新左派",把薄熙来恭为代言,显然张冠李戴。

国内"新左派"网站是这样区分左、右政治取向的:"在中国,左派信仰马列,毛泽东思想,走社会主义公平路线,反对剥削。而右派则崇尚官僚资本主义,自由资本主义,主张全盘西化,走三权分立,议会制等。右派主张中国走外围资本主义及买办资本主义。而左派则注重于发展自力更生,艰苦奋斗的精神,主张人人平等,消灭剥削的。两者的主要争论是前者主张公平高于自由,后者主张自由高于公平。"不难看出,"新左派"依然无法冲出党派、阶级、意识形态的牢笼。

19516月,社会党国成立原则宣言《民主社会主的任与目》,明确提出了以"民主社会主"自己的纲领。它的内容主要包括: 否认阶级和阶级斗争主张多党制主张社会不同群体通过议会多数掌握国家权力建立一个政治民主经济民主,文化民主和社会民主的社会;在经济上主张建立"混合经济",即合作制和私有制、计划经济和自由竞争相结合,反对消灭私有制,主张实行国家干预和计划化,逐步扩大国有化实施社会保障制度和建立福利国家,主改革税制,通过扩公民经济权利和社会福利,进行收入和财富的再分配,以实现经济平等;通过政治改良和科技革命,发展生产力,最终实现自由、民主、人权、法治、公平、正义的和谐社会。

从这个意义上说,中国社会民主党属于左翼,正是因为认同这种价值取,国内、国外一大批坚定的民主社会主义信仰者正在集聚。惩治官僚腐败,追求公平正义,缩小贫富差距,是社民党人奋斗目标之一,开启政治改革的大门是实现这一目标的必要前提,获得政治民主,享有广泛的选举权和被选举权,才是确保社会分配公正的唯一手段。

荷衰欲黄荇犹绿,鱼乐自跃鸥不惊。中国社会民主党不会因为"重庆事件"而迷茫;更不会捆绑在某一个政治势力的战车上,她将坚定地秉承民主社会主义的核心价值,并为实现这一价值全力推进中国的政治变革。

 


 
 

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